Charles Mighty Messenger; Elyon; Light - New Options - Aug 28 & Sept 09, 2011 - Two Transcripts from North Idaho

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Subject: No. Idaho Team  2011-09-04
Teacher: Elyon, Charles, Light
T/R: Mark Rogers, Henry Zeringue

Elyon: [Mark] Greetings my friends, I am Elyon. I take delight in joining you this morning in your circle and in your project of devoting energy to the portal. I have a great affinity for this group; this was my first opportunity to serve in this capacity as it was yours and so together we stepped out in faith and forged the road that we have come to so enjoy together. So much has transpired since the very beginning when there was a sense of struggle almost in reaching so far but you weren't sure you could grasp but we did this together, we reached and we were able to make contact, to touch each other and become part of each others experience. I am so very pleased to have been involved with you throughout this process and to watch you grow and grow your reach and your grasp of spirt. You have all witnessed that your lives have been changed,  have been elevated, have been expanded and increased by virtue of having developed this portion of yourself, this spiritual part.

It has also been my great pleasure to introduce, as it were, you to a number of celestial personalities that have been pleased as well to join in the classroom that you provide. As we all move forward in this process, there becomes more and more a sense of familiarity of where we have been, with the accomplishments we have made, with the ground that we have gained in this process together and so there is a fondness attached to where we have been and the way it was and how we may be used to it.

But true growth demands that you allow for the expansion of what it is so that it may become something expanded. And so as much as we may cherish the beginnings and the opening portion of a chapter, it is required to move to another chapter, another level from time to time and this means approaching some of the original apprehensions you encountered in the very beginning when I was there with you. There will be these apprehensions arise as new and unconsidered potentials present themselves before you and you are likely to encounter these flushes of doubt and insecurity. They are part of your constitution and they will always be there to be navigated as you grow spiritually.

I just am here to ask that you recall what it felt like in the beginning when things were new and we had to get used to them, we had to overcome the distance and the obstacles between us by our sheer force of will into the grid that we created. So it is that you will be exposed to many service opportunities immediately before you and you may accept or pass on as many as you so choose. But the same principles that you applied when you came into this forum initially and we had to try to go beyond a sense of limitation so that we could come to a new plateau of awareness. That is all it is, over and over again, that is really all it is.

So it is my pleasure once again to be present with you as we encounter new options arise as predicted rather on schedule. I cherish these moments we share and I look forward to so many more as there is no limit in the spiritual realm. We may share so much more together. I now withdraw to allow this platform for use by others. It is always my pleasure and privilege to be with you. Good day to you all.

Charles: [Henry] Greetings to you this morning, this is Charles here, happy to be here as part of this circle of love, circle of friendship, listening in on your conversations of concern and being reminded how spiritual things are connected with feelings on a human level and seeing how feelings are with us throughout our whole life as a child growing up, as an adult, feeling for something, feeling for understanding, clarity, feeling for connectedness with each other, eventually feeling and searching for love, love for each other and in a spiritual sense, feeling a need to connect with a source of love.

Even though love is energetic it does have a source which can be resourced. As humans, one of the aspects to humanness, to the human animal nature that was missing, was supplemented by the Father in the Adjusters that were sent out to indwell humans, which contained the reference, the actual piece of everlasting love that humans could feel, they could tap into, they could find, they could resource, they could share. It is evidence from eternity, from Paradise eternity which indwells you, a connectedness, a connectedness to resource, a connectedness with who you originally were, a mere concept, an idea in the mind of God, the vast mind of God, the mind if idea.

The whole universe created with a mandate of order, respect, and love, referencing a need to feel a part of this greatness. In a certain sense it can be said that love is reality and reality is love. If you want to see how real something is, determine how much love it contains and if you have found something or someone full of love you have found something very real. It is this real connection that spirit intends to share with its human counterpart, human brother and sister.

The immediate sense of urgency is a given. In the time and space universes, always will exist need, incompleteness, connectedness, searching and finding a way for complete connectedness, connectedness with mind, connectedness with feeling, connectedness with purpose. In a sense there is a tremendous need of service to connect all in love with love of each other, for each other. This is true in a human sense; this is true in a spiritual sense. We need the human counterpart as much as the human counterpart needs spirit, spirit personality, spirit service, spirit love, to know that spirit is good, spirit is whole, spirit is complete, and for us to know that all is not in vain. Humans are becoming conscious, humans are growing and humans are beginning to represent love and light, Light and Life, happiness and joy. Yes, the tasks at hand are mere choice options for service opportunities. The ability to serve in love, to serve with love, all aspects of love, to understand at one time everything began in perfect love and now all of these parts are trying to reconnect to the whole of love.

It is good to be here as part of this group with you. I love you all. I hope that you all have a great love filled week. In peace I leave you, thank you.

Light: [Mark] Hello my friends, I am Light. I am here to enjoy basking in the glow of the grid that you and I, we, have created in this process and it brings me great joy to be here to express to you that you are correct in your consideration that the pieces of the puzzle may indeed be coming together for us as we are asked to pull together various elements of our training to be utilized for specific purposes. As you well know, we have the pieces of the puzzle as it were, parts of the equation, we have practiced and we have attained a certain skill level with the tools that we have acquired and developed.

And as we have been told, a time would arise in which such tools and skills would be needed and could be applied. We find ourselves now being presented with an opportunity before us. So if you would join with me now in celebration of these gifts and these acquirements, these traits, these universal principles that we apply and utilize, we have enjoyed their presence, their existence, the grid that we have formed among us and between us. We have benefitted by its existence and it only exists by the result of our intention.

So now, let us swing the boom about and take another tack using the same winds and point the vessel in a slightly different direction. Let us project our intention to take our experience of this wonderful, Godly, clean and divine pattern that we have become familiar with and experienced with and let us send out our projection to overlay the grid work that exists which encompasses all with our divine pattern, our experience of how wholesome and good, how righteous and clean, how positive and beautiful; bring this, our experience of the grid and donate it to the whole, project it as our intention to beam out this pattern of love. Let it be directed, let it be channeled by those who are in jurisdiction of such matters. We simply will supply the energy to be molded and used where necessary and this energy is as a result of our own experience that it is so. We know this to be true, we know this to be real. This is our experience, our collective understanding and we would donate such a wholesome and good pattern to the Supreme to overlay the whole. It is as simple as this and as profound as we are unable to register.

It is my greatest pleasure to work with you in these projects and processes, to be side by side as we direct and wield our intentions and principles at play. Do your very best to entertain no idea that your thoughts are insignificant or do not matter to the whole. Every piece is important to finish the puzzle. Every piece has a unique  place to hold that only it can hold in the entire tapestry. Thank you for the chance to work together my friends. Go now in peace, farewell.

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Transcript 2 of 2
Subject: No. Idaho Team  2011-08-28
Teacher: Charles
T/R: Henry Zeringue

Prayer: Father/Mother God, we gather in this circle this morning, this circle of friendship and love and we receive the spiritual nurturing of our souls and of our consciousness. As humans on this planet, we are confused by the many offerings that are being thrust upon us. We need clarification, we are not able to find and follow our own consciousness, we want to make sure that we are not being led astray. We seek your advice on these matters, thank you.

Charles: Greetings this morning my friends, this is your friend Charles, happy to be here and eager to have a say in these discussions that are going on this morning. There is a tremendous amount of truth with variation being thrown around the table this morning. It is interesting from a Urantian perspective how truth and reality are viewed. On one hand you completely understand that the universes of time and space are in the process of becoming complete and perfected though they still are in the process.

True, the spiritual universe has a sense, a comprehensive sense of order. We would not be able to keep everything in as neat an order if it were not so. Yet, in the spiritual universe there are problematic situations and there are areas, rough areas of incompletion, and then there is Urantia. You have been given access to all that can go wrong to a planet, this is part of your heritage. On the other side of the coin, you have also been given all that can go right and correct with a planet. On one hand you have experienced the philosophical error of a spiritual being as it is translated and understood by beings on the planet. I am speaking of the Lucifer rebellion and the effects it has had on the planet. On one hand, tremendously disruptive, disruptive on every level.

The confusion and chaos that was caused and which has ensued from this phenomenon has brought about a situation in which the Master Creator Son of the universe personally came down to your world to try to establish some sense of order, some sense of purpose and meaning. I completely understand where you are coming from. It is tremendously difficult to categorically say that the information you are receiving at the moment is incorrect or is complete. A lot of the information that you are receiving, you are receiving through human minds. Nothing has been perfected in terms of human spiritual communication.

This is the way that it is. This is why you are indwelt with a spiritual communicator, that individually you are receiving information about your personal being and your personal life. When information begins to move out of the personal arena, it begins to have a tremendous effect on large groups of people depending on whether this information supports what they believe or not. Then there is a large part of these people who feel that they should follow this information. Yes, you are getting the complete sense of my noncommittal nature on this subject, that being that there is a tremendous amount to this information that is correct.

There are aspects to this information which has to do with how the information is perceived and received by others. One thing is for certain, information of any nature which is incorrect will soon reveal itself to be as such. Information which does not personally concern you is extremely speculative. There are tremendous agendas and ideas which are going about and being discussed dealing with the problems on your world and how the spiritual universe is going to deal with it.

One of the things which is for certain, is that the spiritual universe is addressing this problem on your world at this  time. It is obvious that the spiritual universe is posturing to do something about the problems on your world. What exactly is the form that this will take has not been precisely decided at this point. Part of the reasoning is that we are still in a myriad of discussions about this situation, the problems which will occur when we do try to do something, how what we will do will be interpreted and construed by peoples of your races, peoples in political and religious positions of power.

These certainly are interesting times in which to live on a planet such as you live on now. All situations point to a tremendous transitional flux. One of the challenging discussions has to do with the agondonter status on your world. This may soon change. It has become tremendously obvious to us that the human beings on this planet may not be able to bring themselves around in a spiritual sense, in the greater sense of creating a universal brotherhood of peace. [As] part of the corrective measures, the spiritual universe is deciding this as we speak.

Of all we are discussing, no scenario looks positive for the agondonter status. This generation of humans now on Urantia may be the last of agondonter status, therefore the spiritual presence of spiritual beings on your planet has not been finalized. It is in the process of being finalized and moving forward. This I understand, creates a peculiar situation within your minds, the sense of not knowing, the sense of longing and the sense of patient waiting until these scenarios begin to play themselves into the human arena.

I will say that it is necessary to create a separate avenue of information apart from which was started with the Teaching Mission and this information is having to do with the transitional directives which are taking place both from the spiritual personality standpoint, the time has come for the adjudication of an age, the time has come for a Magisterial Son to visit the planet and become resident here. The time has also come to bring human nature into a greater resemblance of a spiritual brotherhood and the time has come for a global network of communication necessary that all elements of your society will have access to the same information.

We understand that the human agencies are not perfected in the processes they are undertaking at this time though they are intending to present information which they feel is more correct and inline with what they are receiving through the spiritual agencies. No matter what information you receive from spiritual agencies, none of this information will override the prime directive of the spiritual agency which resides within the human being and transmitting information to that particular individual.

Within the spiritual universe, not much of our information is of a conflicting nature though it is of [such] a vast nature that one part of the vastness may not be aware of another part in this vast arena of spiritual agencies and pertinent information as it relates to your personal human endeavors and the spiritualizing of this planet. There are many aspects which must precede the final stage whereupon the spiritual personalities will become present on your world. Part of reconnecting Urantia into the spiritual network of life evolutionary worlds has to do with placing the spiritual grid and repairing the spiritual grids that originally were in place on the planet and have somewhat deteriorated once their use was discontinued and new grids have to overlay and reestablish spiritual confirmation to this planet.

We ask for your patience while this necessary work is going on. This work is involving millions of spiritual agencies among which the midwayers on Urantia are necessary to our endeavors to reestablish these spiritual circuits, these grid networks. It is true that in the processes involved with reconnecting and reestablishing these spiritual energetic grids, that there have been problems which have been encountered. Though these problems do not affect you personally, they are being dealt with and being brought into a greater sense of order by the spiritual agencies assigned to these tasks.

In a certain sense, it is a complete remodeling of the planet. Part of what the grids are intending to do is reshape the consciousness on the planet. How successful this will become, at this point we do not know. I personally do not completely understand and comprehend all that is ensuing but in the process of remodeling the planet, you will have to allow time for construction an demolition. This is part of the remodeling process. We thank you for your patience, we thank you for your concern. Are there any more questions?

Question: There have been a few occasions the last year or so where transmissions come through which seem to test the ability of those reading transmissions, testing the transmitters themselves sometimes. The information that comes through is confusing such as recently we were told that Michael was going to materialize on the planet then thereafter we were told that it was just a test of [the] reflectivity ability of the transmitter. This method doesn't make sense to me. All I have ever understood from spirit is that they don't work this way, they don't try to cause confusion, especially on this planet where we've already been mislead by a high spiritual personality. I'm trying to get a better understanding of this process. Is this the confusion of the transmitter themselves or do the celestials actually use this type of method to bring forth their information?

Charles: Thank you for this question. At this time, what I can tell you is that there is a tremendous challenge in the transfer of information from the collective of spiritual consciousness to the collective of human consciousness. There is a tension on the human side in receiving spiritual and spirit based information and I make a distinction because not all information from spirit is of a spiritual nature. Some of it is functional or procedural information. A lot of this information will in time work itself so that it is much more consistent and in order with other information being received through spiritual agencies.

There is in a sense a condition or a problem resulting from information being transferred, both from a sense of spiritual information and information which categorically comes from spirit. You must be willing to bear with this transitional part of receiving the information. The best that I can tell you is that you will know of things when they manifest themselves to be. Is this helpful in any way?

Questioner: Well it just confirms what I've already felt that this is going to be an even greater time for lessons on discernment. Thank you.

Charles: My friend, the lessons on discernment will lead you all the way to Paradise. While you are in the universes of time and space, your sense of discernment is of great value for there are many aspects [to] the same information and at some point you will receive all of the aspects to the information and you will be better equipped to discern the information for yourself at that point. Information from your end is just trickling in. Part of receiving information is the ability to ask correct questions, pertinent questions to the information you already have received.
Much of the information which you will need to discern will have to do with information which affects you personally. All other information would be better left to itself until it is clarified. Thank you.

Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this circle of friendship and love with you this morning and we will continue this discussion again. Thank you.
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