Monjoronson - Where Are We Urantians Not Doing Well - Jun 18, 2008 - Q&A Audio Session 7
Subject: Monjoronson.com Q/A Session #7 Teacher: MonjoronsonT/R: Rick GilesModerator: Mary RogersMonjoronson: I am with you, I am Monjoronson for the record and I will be more than happy to receive your inquiries and will address them as are appropriate to the needs of those who seek.
Question #1: [Mary] Good evening Monjoronson. This first question is from one who has only recently found the Teaching Mission and the Magisterial Mission and they have been reading a lot of transcripts since they are not in a local group and feel very strongly drawn to the mission. They are very willing but don't know what it is they should do and they ask: my current line of work does not seem to me to be sustainable for myself financially or as an industry. How do I get to a place where I can do something sustainable that I believe in and feed my family?
Monjoronson: This is an issue which does not readily address from my side of what you might call the veil, for the elements which comprise the situation are highly variable and specific to a condition such as this questioner. Your reference to sustainability leaves an ambiguity as to whether this sustainability is in regards to its effect upon a broader behavior pattern which benefits many peoples or whether that sustainability is in regard to the family unit and its support financially.
Trust is a quality of spiritual presence that one must exercise but this trust can be coupled with a diligence to pursue an alternate course which may prove helpful to your economic and home life condition. When you are desiring to fulfill the will of God, you have quite the latitude as to how you may do so for it is the desire of God to experience a broad range of human experiences through you. Therefore your choice of occupations is not limited to one specifically ideal selection.
As you search for a solution to your dilemma, rest assured that you may perforce be required to transition through several intermediate steps before you arrive at the solution. These transitional steps to some may prove defeating as they arise and then fail to be the answer. But do not lose hope, maintain the trust and consider those stepping stones in the investigation, the exploratory for what will become that sustainable situation. I cannot offer to you a specific shift in focus for it is very unique to your conditions and I must allow you the freedom of the exploration and the discovery.
[Mary] I think this questioner was on the same track as he did follow up the question with this sentence that said: Is it just my perception of my position or should I just put one foot in front of the other in trust?
Monjoronson: Yes, to the second aspect of the question.
Question #2: [Mary] Here's another question. Monjoronson, I guess I don't have to thank you for your involvement in this mission as I am sure it is as much a privilege for you as your participation is a benefit to us. I have been following the Q/A forum for some time and there is something I would like to ask you. You always say how well we are doing and that things are progressing. I would like to know where we are not doing so well and what can be done to make some improvements? Jesus often chided His disciples for their misguided questions, their reactions and I guess I would like to see more of a challenge presented to us to do better. Thank you in advance for your response.
Monjoronson: I offer the word acceptance. It is difficult for the human mind to accept differences among peoples and this is because when one orients their value system they are convinced that the high values held by them are of usefulness to all others and soon lose sight of the necessity that all others are undertaking evolutionary unfoldment which require alternate experiences that may in the end lead to the same ideals and they will be held equally as valid but the course to attain it is different.
We from our vantage point are accommodating of one another’s variable pursuits of the highest ideal. This is something that the human beings on Urantia must learn. It can be difficult as what you cherish seems to be devalued when you allow others to hold views and beliefs which are sometimes apparently diametrically opposed. But you are all on the scale of the evolutionary ascent quite at the starting line and so not one of you has progressed very far in the eternal continuum, the ascent to Paradise.
If you will allow yourself to accept the alternate courses of one another you will soon discover though not in your current lifetime, that you are all converging on the same experience of unity. So while you pursue what you believe to be your highest ideal, work upon allowing and accepting one another to take alternate courses to the same Paradise home. I hope this addresses your question.
[Mary] Thank you for that response Monjoronson, I personally find that allowing and accepting a being the choices for suggesting further work is great and I find it interesting just because it is some of the things I'm spending a lot of time thinking about lately and just trying to appreciate other people and to remind myself that other people are doing the same thing I am doing, just trying to get through life with some understanding, some graciousness, some realizing of their potential and that other people are trying to do the same thing and that we may not understand or agree with them but to respect that others are on the same general path of the human being. It is an interesting path and I appreciate that you point those out in answer to the question.
Question #3: [Mary] This is a question about the Assigned Sentinel who is on our local system headquarters. As I have learned this being is a direct creation of the Infinite Spirit and reports directly to the planet Orvonton, one of the 21 spheres immediately surrounding Paradise. Since our assigned sentinel is also the acting head of the counsel of 24 on Jerusem and John the Baptist is the current governor general on Urantia, and along with the Michael bestowal commission now acting on Urantia; is there a tie between all of these agencies and yourself to co-ordinate Michael's return during your mission? Thank you for taking this difficult question.
Monjoronson: I must first state that all activities on any sphere by the various orders and divisions of beings are always co-ordinated and strive for harmony in the effort. The Counsel of 24 are a unique group of beings that were assembled as a compensation for the disruption of the rebellion in your system and will not continue indefinitely as a governing body but will provide an advisory role even after the administrations of the various planets are restored to normal order.
However as you understand from your readings that the individuals on this counsel are ascendant creatures and will be at the appropriate time looking to further their ascent and so will not remain forever in positions on the counsel. My mission has to do with the transitions from one phase of planetary development to another and Michael's return is somewhat independent of those stages of planetary progress. He will be looking for a time where He may be able to address the whole world. That said, no specific group of people may find themselves claiming a uniqueness, a special accommodation by His addressing them and your world is only now getting to that stage wherein the whole world may know as anyone around that world comes to know.
I am here to accelerate the transition and it is in this effort that the conditions may improve for a return of Michael but my efforts are not specifically directed toward that event. I am here for a broader effect which will also accommodate His promise to return. You speak of the worlds around Paradise which are high centers of control for the worlds of time and space and they are pattern dynamos which are projected upon the many worlds of the seven super universes. What emanates from them becomes transformed into localized manifestations.
You are on a world that was visited by one of the Creator Sons and such a Creator Son in its own personality causes a variation from that first pattern. These assigned sentinels are here to foster an efficiency as those adjustments are made. You will find them to be a unique order of beings for they are capable of making such flexible adjustments that the future for any given locality will be realized not only as it is idealized on high but as it is also variably revealed by the specific local situation.
I am viewed as emerging from the efforts of the correcting time of the Teaching Mission but I am not a direct result of that outreach. I am a parallel project which has some similar goals but I look to the future ages, I look to prime the planet for the work of the Trinity Teacher Sons who are the long term architects and executioners of a planets progress to Light and Life. Michael came here to fulfill His attainment of sovereignty and has made the unique promise to return. I come to transition through dispensations and the Trinity Teacher Sons come to take the planet to Light and Life.
So we all co-ordinate, but we all hold different objectives and goals that fit among one another somewhat harmoniously but also standing alone as a unique effort.
Question #4: [Mary] Thank you for that response Monjoronson. Here's a question about energy and this person would like to know if our personal energy field also know known as bio-field or aura, is our personal energy field, the mechanism that facilitates our perception, our sixth sense, our sense of others and their attitudes and thinking?
Monjoronson: This energy field is what you may liken to the function of your physical device called an antennae. It isn't a detector and will sense proximity's and colorations that vibrations provide from others. You refer to it as a sixth sense. It is more like a broad collector which is translated by your senses into understandable terms. Those who have spent time becoming sensitive to this field have learned to interpret in the symbology of your senses what those impacts upon that field mean, but they are receptions of vibrations which are given the dialect of your sensory apparatus.
Herein enters the element of subjectivity for one may enter into your presence and have an apparent effect by way of this co-mingling of energy fields while another standing adjacent to you may receive a different energy sense because of your receptors and your translations through those receptors. Someone may project an aura as you refer to it and be interpreted variably. I encourage you to practice developing a sensitivity to this antennae and to scrutinize your interpretation of what is received for the energy will mutate based upon your reflexes and your interpretation.
Mary: With regards to the aura once again is perhaps one of the purposes of stillness is to calm and harmonize this field of energy?
Monjoronson: Yes.
Mary: This questioner also would like to know if they are on the right track with the following thought experiment. I imagine a personal bio-field like a pond and a heartbeat like a pebble being thrown in. When the surface of a pond is still, the ripples from the pebble extend freely and predictably. When the surface of the pond is active due to the stirring of our biological attitudes, intents and thoughts the ripples don't extend in a regular way and our perception becomes unable to work properly. Am I on the right track with this?
Monjoronson: This analogy is an appropriate description of what transpires in the greater field of ones being, but I must also indicate that while ideally the pond be still, that those ripples emanate clearly. I also must point out that even in an agitated surface, those same wave forms still propagate in the same manner. The appearance changes because of the other wave presences but the energy released continues as it was sent only to be altered in the meeting of other form.
You speak of stillness and it is in that calm state that one clearly perceives and experiences that pebble and its effect upon the pond but you also know that stillness is of little worth when in the clamor of the day you cannot bring in the benefits of that stillness to all that noise and clatter about you. When the pond is agitated, by way of the practice of stillness you can still perceive those original ripples of that pebble even as it is intermixed with all the other conditions and qualifications and agitations.
This is the goal of spiritual mastery but you will find great difficulty in finding that original emanation of the pure waves of the pebble without the practice of stillness. You must learn in quietude what it is in order that you may realize it when noise is all about.
Question #5: [Mary] Monjoronson, there is a question here that asks if you are aware of one called Lyricus?
Monjoronson: I am unable to address that question as the names given to various personalities are numerous and it is without more description hard for me to say, just as if I were to say are you aware of one named Fred where there are many who go by that name and many Fred’s who have various nicknames and appellations of affection.
Mary: Well thank you for that reply and perhaps this questioner will expand on Lyricus for us so that we can figure out if it is someone you know.
Question #6: Were you recently offered the office of a deputy Planetary Prince of Urantia?
Monjoronson: I am able to serve in that capacity as Urantia normalizes its administrative structure and given that your world is unique in its governing bodies I can hold such a role however there are also the personalities of the Michael Son and one of the Melchizedek order who also have governing functions of this planet. I am here in a temporary role with plans to undertake other Magisterial Missions when this one is complete and I have not altered that course as yet to undertake a role such as deputy Planetary Prince which would be a significant deviation and require my engagement in this world for longer than this mission is intended to endure.
But I and my order of being are capable of assuming a substitute role such as that and I may find myself functioning as an intermediary until what you might say, the dust settles.
Question #7: [Mary] Thank you Monjoronson for addressing that. This last question is from someone who submitted a couple of questions previously. One of them was about your relationship to our divine parents and the other had to do with a Ho Chi Minh communication that apparently is available to be viewed on a video clip on U-tube. They are surprised by the message that Ho Chi Minh would be so appreciated on the mansion worlds and continue to serve our world, probably he must clean the mess he had created.
As I understand the conversation in the video clip, Ho chi Minh is concerned with recovering the remains of his comrades who died in the jungle during the war. Why is that so important for someone already on the mansion world? Is there any spiritual value to this recovering the remains of his comrades and the questioner states that for the sake of the correcting time he thinks Ho Chi Minh should tell his followers to dispose of his corpse and stop worshiping his statue so Vietnamese people may reconcile, make peace for brotherhood and worship only God. I believe he is asking for clarification about Ho Chi Minh's role currently and if this communication in this video clip is real and why would it be important for someone on the mansion world to be concerned with the recovery of mortal remains on the planet.
Monjoronson: You have on record in various traditions on your world of beings who have left the dimension you are familiar with undertaking activities which cleanse and reorients the personality by allowing a detachment from the past or which allow the making of amends from what transpired. This desire for the recovery of remains is a lingering attachment by this individual and has greater import for that personality and little import to all others for it is a
lesson to be learned at his stage of morontia progression.
All others as you have rightly stated are to look to the light of God and pursue their own path of unfoldment and purification and release from those things which are binding, preventing the departing from the past hurts and progress into future joy. Remember that while you are today enjoying this trans-dimensional contact you must allow for missed translations and garbled communications for the dimensional shift is quite strong and not all things come through to you as clearly as all of us would desire.
Mary: Thank you Monjoronson and I appreciate your efforts and I especially want to express thanks and appreciation for the efforts of all the t/r's who put themselves into the position of trying to receive information from your dimension and translate it into ours and I appreciate all our t/r's and their willingness to try to accomplish this mission and the co-ordination of all of these efforts is I'm sure appreciated by everyone and I also personally appreciate your recognition and reminder that not all of these communications can come through as clearly as we would all like them to be.
So we do listen and learn as best we can while we understand the imperfect nature of these communications. We appreciate you being here tonight Monjoronson, thank you to the t/r for your services and that is all the questions we have this evening.
Monjoronson: I will then draw close by commenting on your conclusions here. One bent nail does not destroy the value of a home being constructed and in that very house even a nail or two missing from the construction will not bring that house down. And so we are quite patient with all who make the effort to bring through our communications. There are times when the nail does bend and there are times when the nail is missing but the construction of our purposes for uplifting Urantia will still proceed and will still stand glorious when the end is arrived at.
Therefore while you do seek to be diligent, to be accurate and to receive well, do not berate yourself when you perchance bend a nail. I will take my leave and thank you for your requests.
Mary: Thank you for your loving response and consideration Monjoronson and good evening.
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