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Elyon; Machiventa; Light - The Concept of Truth - Oct 18, 2009 - Northern Idaho
Subject: No. Idaho Team
Teachers: Elyon, Machiventa, Light
T/R: Mark Rogers
October 18, 2009

Prayer: [Mary] Thank you Father for this circle of friends, comrades along the path, so valuable. Please continue your ministry to each of us, helping us expand the capacity of our cup that we may hold more and more of You, your truth and your light. Thank you.

Elyon: [Mark] Greetings once again this morning my friends, I am Elyon here to add to this expansion of awareness that you refer to with some more discussion about this idea of relative truth. The very fact that I refer to bringing more to discuss about this idea of truth infers that this whole concept of truth is in fact expansive and does in fact grow and change with your capacity to embrace it. Once again, I will refer to a common analogy of familiarity to all because you all have had the experience of growing up from an early stage where the basic truths which were appropriate to your stage of development were in fact very basic and simple.

You needed to be taught only certain limited things to be able to successfully navigate your level of awareness. When one is two years old they need to know only certain very simple and basic principles. In order to co-exist in their environment they simply must learn the most basic mechanics in life in order to travel in time and space from where they are to where the cookie is over on the table. It is not necessary for them to know the laws of gravity and the use of energy in their different muscle structures, they simply concentrate on what is required to trigger the right muscles to get them to their desired location. Looking at their two year old life experience, it is then a complete success and full of rewards for having mastered the most simple and basic principles. They must learn how to communicate in most basic and rudimentary form in order to acquire their most basic and simple needs. At that stage, if they are able to communicate through simple voice inflection or the change in expression from happy to crying then they have succeeded in conveying their message and they then are rewarded with having their needs met.

Now fast forward to the ten year old child, they have the same basic needs and desires as the two year old but in order to navigate more efficiently through their environment it is required that they adopt and use word symbols to convey their needs, desires and intentions in this life for them to be properly situated and respected as members of the family, it is required of them that they fine tune their understanding of how to use their bodies, how to use their mind to create communication and all these increased capacities enable them to see life through a different lens of awareness and realize the deeper meanings that were necessarily overlooked when they were just two and it was not required of them to embrace any higher awareness.

But at ten it still may not be necessary for them to understand the deepest of principles, say the laws of gravity, because they are still developing and while they have a rudimentary understanding that objects fall to the earth it is still not required of them that they be able to fully understand this principle and the mechanics of it. When you fast forward to the age of twenty and they are now in the realms of higher education, they are exposed to certain mathematical equations and ways of understanding this phenomenon that they have experienced their whole lives, known as gravity, because they are training to become a rocket scientist. At this point it is required of them that they have more than the basic and simple awareness that things tend to fall to the earth. They need to understand the laws of gravity so that they might navigate successfully through them and around them and be able to use them for their own benefit or overcome them in the case of the desire to leave this planet.

Meanwhile, this basic law of gravitational pull has been in effect the entire time. When they were two they had to overcome gravity to put one foot in front of the other and maintain their balance. When they were ten they could hit a baseball and watch it rise and sink back to the earth, simply observing this principle in action. When they were twenty they could use many methods at their disposal to describe quite accurately in scientific terms, this same phenomenon and how to mechanically overcome it with enough force to be able to be free from its effect having left the atmosphere of earth.

The truth of gravity did not change. What changed was the capacity of the observer to be able to interpret it and embrace the reality of it. Likewise, spiritually you must grow in your capacity to embrace the truths before they may become impressed upon you as to their significance or worthiness or applicability to your own individual life experience because that is all that matters when you are observing and interpreting life. Your own individual view of it and your capacity to understand and interpret and ultimately embrace the truths.

That is how all truth is relative to the one observing. No two are observing from the same vantage point of capacity, no two have exactly identical life experience which enables them to draw the same conclusion from similar observations that may be obtained. So it is that there will always be this distinction in time and space of different perspectives and differing life observations bringing to the observers valid and real experience but these experiences are individualized by the one doing the experiencing. While they may be shared between individuals they are not necessarily directly transferrable as they must be incorporated by each individual perceiver in accordance with their abilities to grasp these truths.

This, as you have witnessed in your lives, makes for some very great disparities between the many different observers and their many different interpretations of what is being observed. As much as you might like to believe or think that there is but one real truth to be seized upon and held in high esteem as being the ultimate truth to be encountered, there is nothing ultimate in this entire realm of relativity that you exist in. So don't be hard on others or yourselves for arriving at different conclusions based on your different perspectives for this is to be expected at this stage in your evolution. You all are somewhere between two and ten in your spiritual development and as such your individual understanding of truth is completely valid and real to you from where you stand, others will have truths that are valid and real to them from where they stand and there is no conflict in this observation that this is so because there is such freedom of perception and experience that all these observations of truth are within the greater context of ultimate truth which exists in a time and place far far away from this one.

Thank you once again for allowing further discussion on this because as has just been illustrated, your point of reference has changed since the last time this idea of relative truth was discussed. Your capacities have enlarged and therefore each time such a topic is brought up for further illumination you can access more of what we are attempting to describe through this imperfect process. I now express my gratitude for this opportunity that you provide and would step aside to accommodate a space for others. Thank you.

Machiventa: [Mark] Greetings once again, I am Machiventa Melchizedek here to take advantage of this opportunity that you provide to once again bring a reminder that you have access to such greater truths than you are able to find out there in the "real world" as you would refer to it. All that you may expose yourself to on this imperfect plane of Urantia is by its very nature imperfect and incomplete. That is the paradigm that exists on a time/space world such as this and if limited only to your exposure to all of the various relative truths, then certainly one would have a difficult time arriving at the best of this conglomeration of observation and to draw any supreme conclusions from such limited perspectives as are provided by your peers.

Last week I reminded you that you each have an internal means by which you can reach beyond this limited realm of perception, this internal modem of yours provides you with the ability to scan a different level of awareness than you may be exposed to in your process of merely observing your environment and those around you. It is quite true that many have assembled significant pieces of this puzzle that they are willing to share and that may be quite serviceable and useful as you are trying to assemble your pieces to the puzzle but in many many cases the greatest that mankind has to offer to each other has been the result of inspiration from outside the realm of mankind.

Even now you are seeking for something to be added to what you perceive as your current limitations of awareness and you do well to turn to your spiritual dimension to facilitate this process because one can only expose themselves on this material plane to what others have gleaned and assembled in their life experience and it is only by turning to your spiritual side of experience that you can bring in additional and previously unknown contributions to be made to your existing pool of understanding.

The Father so loves you that He has provided for you these multi dimensions for you to access and utilize as you experience your ascension career. He has provided these classrooms of material experience on this sphere on which you are thrown together with your peers and you must try to piece together your understanding of all that is by observing all that you are exposed to around you. But He has also provided you with another means of experiencing even greater truths and broader universe principles so that you may constantly be upgrading your level of understanding even beyond what is apparent to you in this material time and space realm.

This is an incredibly valuable experience of growing to understand and assemble all these relative truths around you into some form of awareness. But oftentimes all of these observed truths must be brought together by a flash of awareness from outside this material dimension that then makes sense of all that you have accumulated in your observations. Facts are one thing and may be readily observed but truths are the greater overall understanding of many many observed facts and principles. The greatest truths of all often are not the result of assembling great numbers of facts but are the result of reaching beyond mere fact and the observation of material principles and reaching into the dimension of values and meanings.What all these facts and observations really mean tends to come to you through the spiritual dimension.

Truly the Father loves you, for having given you these different means of growth and understanding such that you are not limited to merely observations of material truths but can be expanded into true awareness of meanings and values while still in this material mode of observation. So once again I arrive to remind you of this connection that you have to upgrading your appreciation and understanding through this process of downloading meaning and value to aid in your interpretation of fact and truth.

I will never tire of reminding you of your inherent capacities and abilities. I have accepted this assignment and I will be faithful to the end. Thank you for hearing my words and for putting into action in your lives what you think the meaning of these words may be to you. It will change and it will grow and it will mean different things to you as you evolve and increase your individual capacities. This is the beauty of the plan, the grace that is the love of your Divine Parents for you in this process. I stand in appreciation with you and in gratitude I take my leave. Thank you.

Light: [Mark] Hello, I would join this conversation and be honored to bring this meeting to a close with one quick analogy, I am Light. You have an expression on this world that one who is learned and has had opportunity to amass great wisdom has in fact "seen the light". I would refer to Elyon's description of truth. It is not as though the light has not been there. It  was referred to as one who has finally come to a point of seeing the light. This is what it means to increase your awareness and position yourselves to finally be able to see what exists around you already, to finally be able to see the light. You all are realizing that there is this light in which you trust, all around you and by pursuing your understanding you increase your capacity to be able to take in this light and to be in this light and to with greater awareness turn to the light and see this light.

This is one more way to look at this whole idea of the relative proximity to truth, the relative proximity to light. It is ones ability to awaken to this light that characterizes their relationship to it, not the fact that the light was absent and then became present but merely their perception of the light was absent and then became present. So it is with truth, so it is with beauty, so it is with goodness. All are present and it is merely the ability of the perceiver to recognize these qualities and to finally be the light.

Thank you for this opportunity to draw this meeting to a close. I cherish the chance to come among you from time to time and now will bid you all a fond farewell. Thank you.