NEC #18 with Charles, Mighty Messenger - Going Public - Contacting The Catholic Church - Mar 21, 2014 - Daniel Raphael, Colorado
New Era Conversations #18 – Progress Report; Social Justice; Going Public – Mar. 21, 2014
Teacher: Charles, Administrative Assistant to the Triumvirate
TR: Daniel Raphael
Team: Roxanne Andrews, Michael McCray & James Patten. (Susan Bryner was unable to attend this session.)
March 21, 2014
Prayer: Heavenly Father, Michael and Nebadonia, please be with us as we once again gather to be your foot soldiers on Urantia. Our intention is to further the work of the Correcting Time by assisting Monjoronson and Machiventa in their efforts on yours and our behalf’s to prepare Urantia for the future age of light and life. We expand our team to five now with the addition of James Patten. Please bless our efforts to be of service to our brethren. Amen.
CHARLES: Good morning, this is Charles. (Group greetings.) It is good to be here with you and it is good to see that we have a new member. James, welcome to our fold; you will find that you are on new territory here with us, and that we have a very interesting program ahead for us this week and in forthcoming weeks. We have asked you to come to join us for the resources that you bring forward in your life. You are an unusual individual in that you have been a participant of authoritarian linear dominated thinking and command situations in the military, yet you are a spiritual individual deeply connected to the Father and to us in more ways than you are aware. The resources you bring to us will be used in forthcoming weeks, months and years, and for the duration of your life, if you wish.
Change to team format
We wish to change the format of our five-some in that we will no longer have a moderator, but each of you will be equally present in the operation of this team. This will require you to be in much more psychic and morontial connection with each other, so that you do not step on each other’s toes in your conversation and your discussion. You have already experienced some of that during the first few minutes of today’s meeting. This will require that you think ahead to your thoughts and your questions that you can be entwined in speaking like two hands with fingers interlaced. This is how we wish you to operate as an ideal. We realize that you will have your own thinking going on in your questions and your contemplation of the issues that we present to you, and that you will want to make comments. It may be that you will need to keep a notepad beside you to keep track of your thoughts, so that you can refer to them at an appropriate time. We know that this will be quite a challenge for you, as you are not present physically with each other and you cannot see each other for observing non-verbal cues of each other to know when you can speak. Some of you are contemplative thinkers, where you hear something, you go within and you cogitate on the topic, and then you come forward and blurt out your question or your thoughts or your comments. This will be more difficult for you at this time; it will be far more intentional and less spontaneous, which is a sacrifice that we see we may have to amend in the future if you are not able to have smooth “finger-folding” in your conversations. Are there any questions concerning that?
Roxie: No, that seems very clear.
CHARLES: James, we thank you so much for being here; we know that you are now in observation mode; you are observing what is going on, the personalities involved and you are taking note of that and you are on your learning curve. We appreciate that very much, as we know that you will be a conscientious participant today and in weeks following.
Update on progress of this team
Much has happened; much has transpired in the two weeks since we have spoken. There are issues of a private nature and issues of a public nature, which need to be discussed. We are open now to your comments, questions and thoughts. I am here, as well as Monjoronson. Please proceed.
MMc: There has been some thought among our group about forming a design team. We would like to know your thoughts on the matter.
CHARLES: We have discussed this in the past and we do not see it as possible in the way our team is constituted and the way it operates, and the mode of conversation that you have.
Progress of a reader in Oregon concerning his project
MMc: Okay. I’m wondering if you have any words of encouragement for Jeff Cutler. Jeff is involved in trying to get social sustainability declared a major course of study in an Oregon University.
CHARLES: Yes, we have much to say about Jeff Cutler and his proposition. He is still in the embryonic stage of development of those concepts; he is speaking “Greek” to “French” speakers who do not fully understand, comprehend or appreciate the magnitude of the project that he is proposing. We have a remedy now in development, an aid to him and to others who will have similar thoughts and propositions for initiating course work of social sustainability in university and college settings.
You may not be aware that This One. . .
[and Roxanne, we wish you to capitalize the “T” and the “O,” as it is not necessarily that this one is so special, but that it denotes that we are speaking of a particularly individual without naming him/her. Do you understand? (Roxie: Yes, I do.)]
. . . that This One has on the 8th of April, a presentation he will make to fifteen members at Colorado Heights University, upon the invitation of Professor “M” who is highly interested in social sustainability. These individuals are professionals, educators and community leaders, not students. What will occur, and has been occurring, is that This One now is in the process with us, in forming an outline for the depth of this material. You can imagine as you have read through these materials in the “Fundamentals of Social Sustainability,” that there is certainly enough course work for undergraduates and graduates—and post graduates—for consideration at the university level.
What will occur in this first meeting is that This One will provide an overview within 60 minutes of this whole span of thought. This will be an introduction to those individuals. Professor “M” has asked This One to consider the possibility of meeting a week later to discuss conscious evolution of societies. We find this to be a very exciting prospect and topic to discuss, as you know that much thought and development has been given to conscious evolution by individuals of global renown, such as Barbara Marx Hubbard, who has a site dedicated to this particular topic. What they will find is unusual and interesting in that what we propose goes far beyond the discussion of conscious evolution as a possibility for your species and your societies, but also provide the actual methodologies for deliberately and intentionally developing your societies so they do become sustainable. You can see that Jeff Cutler’s quandary, his problem and his difficulty will soon be resolved.
We do not see the development of this outline and this presentation process as taking many weeks; we anticipate by April 8th that This One and his morontial assistants will have the outline fully intact and willing to develop this extemporaneously under this outline when he meets with those individuals. This is an aspect of the “fame” that we wish to develop. There must be material that is capable of reaching the level of global “fame” and renown, and there must be a methodology, a means to present this quickly to an individual or to a million individuals as well. The means to do this is through someone who can represent us, and who can adequately and competently represent the materials so that others in the audience understand it.
As you have read through the material, you see the complexity and the depth of it all. All of these elements are based upon the simplicity of the sustainability of your species over the last 40 to 70,000 years, and drawing out of that sustainability the three core values* that can be invested and embed in the design of social organizations. So, you see where the thoughts of this introductory presentation will perfectly meet with the conscious evolution as a topic when that occurs. It is our hope that this would be video recorded, that it would not necessarily have to be perfect but recorded for others to view after it has been edited sometime in the future. From this video will develop clips that can be introduced to people, such as Jeff Cutler, and other academic individuals to see what can be presented. This series of clips would probably last approximately 15, 30, 45 or 60 seconds at most from which they can get a solid grasp of what is occurring, how is it presented, and the competence of the presenter.
[*The three core values are: Quality of life, growth, and equality.]
We hope this helps you, and helps Jeff think about what is forthcoming. We see that this topic of social sustainability will, in some universities, become a complete, holistic school of integrated thought and conceptual development just as there are schools of business with subsets of economics, business practices, management and policy developments. Eventually, you will see a school of social sustainability with the three major subsets of sustainable societies, sustainable democracies and sustainable economies. And from those you will see the root system that initiates from the major stem and to major branches, and so on, into other subsets down to many, many levels. We hope this helps you to support Jeff Cutler’s efforts in his work at that university in Southern Oregon.
Going forward in a secular mode
Universities are one of the major institutions we wish to penetrate, and which we wish to have social sustainability principles legitimated and validated in the next 2, 3 or 5 years. University institutions, as well as Christian Religious Institutions, need to be thought of as us using them as our main conduits of work. As this is presented in a secular mode, these concepts can be adequately accepted and applied by any religious institution, and any university institution. You can see from our work then, how it is important that this be presented secularly, as it provides us with a far broader audience than just those who believe in channeling, and through revelation of this sort. We also mentioned before that it only requires approximately 3% of all your efforts be involved with channeled material of former revelation to allow our Planetary Management to guide the development of your social evolution. Believe that over the decades and centuries that this 3% will have a more than adequate capability of developing social evolution so that you have sustainable peace, sustainable social stability and eventually, this will present itself as the inauguration of the days of light and life. This truly is planetary social evolution, and this is what we are involved in, and this is why the Correcting Time program exists.
A reader writing a sci-fi book on social sustainability
MMc: That was quite a mouthful; a lot to think about. Jeff’s confidant is Liz Cratty; Liz is also a published author of several fiction books under the name of Elizabeth Engstrom. Currently, she is involved in writing a series of fiction books about social sustainability. Would you have anything to share with her, Charles?
CHARLES: Please move forward with the project as we outlined it in the last transcript. You will find that this has many opportunities for character development and for the dynamics that will be involved in actual life for your societies, nations and for your civilization. The first book could easily begin a series that would last for the duration of her lifetime (Liz Cratty’s lifetime,) and that she would find this very fulfilling and that she, too, would eventually become a public speaker presenting these radical ideas of social and civilizational evolution.
James, did you have a comment?
Making a presentation available for showing to contacts
James: "What you are talking about corresponds with questions I might have initially concerning course outlines for colleges. It should be put together, so it comes across as a coherent piece of tasks and standards and how it will take place. Presentations need to be very easily understood, must come across as dynamic and very understandable, so it’s easily sold. The Catholic Church was spoken about earlier by Daniel to get the ball rolling. My question is: How long will it take to get a viable presentation ready?"
CHARLES: As we have mentioned before, it is a developmental process and the “how long” question always is asked, but we do not have an answer for that as your capability to engage developmental process to its completion may take longer than you anticipate. We have waited patiently sitting on our hands, so to speak, for This One to finally complete the conceptual integration of all these ideas of social sustainability. It was necessary to wait until they were complete and to assist This One in getting those ideas, those insights, those “ah-has” as quickly as he could integrate them into his thinking and into the writing.
To answer your question more directly, those materials should be adequately capable of presenting the simplicity of these ideas within 60 minutes, or less. It is imperative that we begin quickly and easily. We do not want to overwhelm you with the prospects of what we are doing, but once individuals begin to contemplate and engage these concepts, they will see that our intention is to change the whole culture of the world, and particularly immediately with technologically developed democracies of the Western culture, which would include Japan and other technologically developed democracies. You have been doing this for so many years that you see it very quickly, but we are working with This One, who has an intuitive mind and does not have the linear intelligence to engage this so forthrightly as you have. We would ask that you two, perhaps, work together as This One is comfortable to develop the simplicity of these concepts within those 60 minutes.
The challenges now are immense for us to work together co-creatively where we truly have boots on the ground that must be used to develop actual materials so that others can understand them. Because the three core values are fundamental to the sustainability of your species, you can imagine as well, that their stability will lend to longevity of these training and teaching materials so that you will not have to reinvent them over and over again; they will simply only need to be moderately adapted for different cultures.
The timing of going public with social sustainability
James: Charles, do you believe that as we are putting this material together, the world it seems, is a bit out of control and maybe at this time it will be easier for those individuals that we contact at universities and colleges to accept these programs of study, and present this information? Do you believe that now is really a good time for them to understand that social sustainability is a much-needed program of study? And it will be easier to get this ball rolling initially?
CHARLES: Yes, very definitely. The timing is impeccable. You may not be aware of that, but we are, as is Christ Michael and the Triumvirate. You see, colleges and universities have a reputation to live up to, and that is to be the fountainhead of new ideas and intellectual and cultural solutions to age-old problems, whether they are nuclear physics or whether they are family dynamics. So, the universities have a necessity to take on this new function, this new goal. They have been floundering for decades to find a new mission for their intelligence, something that they can take on to make a major contribution to the world, besides material sustainability and energy sustainability. Particularly the Catholic Church has a necessity as well. It has a need to burnish its now highly tarnished reputation in the world. It needs to take on this new social sustainability, these concepts, within the context of its religion as a means of promoting social justice and the service to humankind. This, too, has not been apparent to the Church, and has not been seen yet within that context.
Contacting the Catholic Church
This One has made initial forays into the Jesuit University in Colorado, but those individuals have not connected the dots yet for the larger picture. Even those senior academics within the Jesuit University system still are taken aback by their awe and respect for the Papacy and the Curia. They do not see how they can be empowered to present such a profound idea of healing their societies from their position therein, yet you and I know that it takes only one individual to begin the process of tremendous progress. These ideas simply need to be shared and we have begun with universities and with the Catholic Church. It will be much more difficult with the Protestants as they are already divisive. When you take into consideration that there are well over 150 denominations of Protestants, then you see the possibility of “herding cats” as well, and just as easily. Yet, they will be struck by the simplicity of these ideas, which when they take and put them in the words of Jesus, they will see how powerful they are to heal their own theology, which is warped, and to heal the relationship between individuals and particularly between organizations and individuals.
James: Very good—that was my next question. So, with contacts to the Catholic Church specifically, would it be wise to try and set meetings with local bishops initially?
CHARLES: Yes, that would be useful. It would be useful for Catholic members of active Catholic membership in the Church who would be regarded seriously by a bishop to consider this possibility. Each of you and our audience really has no true appreciation for the magnitude and gravity of the confusion and disarray within the ranks of the Catholic hierarchy, considering the devastation that pedophilia has wrought upon that organization. It has been withheld from the news appropriately, though some would wish that the Church would be thrashed liberally in the media, but that would serve no good results for the Correcting Time. You will find that bishops will have this on their minds; they know intimately within their dioceses how desperately their congregations hold that hierarchy responsible for what has occurred. And just as a mother who says nothing about the predation of her children by her husband sexually, is complicit; and so, too, is the silence within the Church complicit with those pedophile priests who have wrought this horrible act upon the Church itself. They are fully aware of this and it would take very little for bishops to recognize the message that the three core values of social sustainability have for their Church. If you use the phrase, “social justice” in the context of the three core values, and a methodology for the Church to use to address this wonderful mission, you will have eager ears that wish for more information. Thank you for your question.
Social Justice and the Church
MMc: Charles, would you enlarge upon that last part that you said about “social justice?”
CHARLES: Yes, it is a phrase within the ecclesiastic community that echoes through the centuries. Thomas Aquinas and all others of humble renown and power and sainthood within the Catholic Church were practitioners of social justice, where there is some methodology for bringing equality and equitable treatment between the ranks and classes of society. How is it that those who are impoverished have less respect than those who are of wealth, though their hearts and souls may be equal and perhaps even more so in greatness for those who are humbly impoverished? Social justice is a topic that will be upon the lips of many in years to come.
The whole development of Occupy Wall Street was about social justice. What was unfortunate about that movement was that those individuals did not understand and did not have a reference to frame their arguments and their cries of injustice and inequality concerning social justice. They knew that they were as worthy and deserving as those of wealth, but did not have a means to express their thoughts in an organized manner that made sense to everyone universally. You will see that bishops will grasp the dynamics of these three core values in the aspect of social justice. These three core values finally give rational argument to equality, based on the need to assist people to grow, to have a higher quality of life—even if that does not mean a larger house, but simply means that they are able to grow in the potential that they brought into the world when they came here.
James: Yes, I pulled that up on the computer, Charles, about social justice and the Catholic Church and its teachings; it’s based on the rights that really come right out of safeguarding human dignity and working with others, and to help make social institutions to work for the common good of everyone, not just a certain 1% or 5% of the world population, but for every single human in the world." I would specifically ask you during my quiet time today to make contact, so I could get some more information that would assist me personally for possibly making contact here in the Northwest. I know the Three Most Highs are probably highly involved with this organization and maybe in connection with them, prepare them to be more receptive to us. Charles, you probably know that I think real simply. I’m a task-condition-standard guy. Here’s the task, these are the conditions, and this is the standard that we are going to present this information to those specific individuals. Is that possible, to have the three Most Highs to provide influence?
CHARLES: Yes, it is highly possible and you can be assured that there will be quite a participating audience around you in your quiet time today. I would ask you to do this, whether you are a Catholic or not: Contact the local Bishop and to begin a coffee meeting with him, or ask whether he already has an informal coffee meeting where ideas can be exchanged between himself and his casual audience. This would be a wonderful opportunity for educating these individuals in the concepts of social sustainability, and you will be confronted with the task of simplifying the message so that others understand it quickly. If you wish to have a task, then we would set that before you. You do not necessarily have to complete this task; we only ask you to attempt it, and if the door of opportunity swings open to you, that you walk through it and exercise it as far as you can until that opportunity either blooms or it withers, and if it withers then you will simply back out of that door of opportunity and try another one. Do you understand?
James: Yes, Sir, I do. And you probably know me more than I know myself, and you know that the doors of opportunity seem to open up pretty wide.
Asking for opportunity
CHARLES: This is a time of tremendous opportunity. You have simply to ask for opportunity to come to you, or that you exercise the option to initiate knocking upon the door of opportunity and you will find that you will be drawn into areas where you had not anticipated and that will be more than just a little productive.
Discourse on poverty
James: As you know, Charles, our current Pope is really in tune with the basic causes of poverty throughout the world. A couple of billion people languish in poverty; they can’t even get clean water or enough food to feed their children throughout the day, which causes extreme difficulties for the families and development—just the basics of human life, the bottom level of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. In addressing issues with the Bishop, and any of his entourage or individuals who are in contact with him, should we somehow develop a casual presentation in the form of tying in the causes of poverty and social sustainability, so that they understand this better?
CHARLES: You do not have to draw them by the nose into these obvious revelations. They will see that. We are not trying to eliminate poverty; we wish you to understand that clearly. Poverty is a consequent development of many other issues in society. To attack poverty directly would misguide the efforts of social evolution. It is our intent to assist each individual to grow, and to improve his or her quality of life. You will find sometimes that the efforts to eliminate poverty simply supports more poverty. The efforts that we have in mind are global, they are long-term and they can be immediately applicable to the individual, but the individual must reach out and grasp those concepts and ideas and enfold them within themselves.
What large organizations and social agencies will provide are the means to assist the evolution and growth of this individual. That may mean contraception for teenage individuals who are sexually active; it may mean teaching crippled individuals new skills to assist themselves from home. It may have any number of things involved. You will find that the principles of social sustainability are a two-edged sword when it comes to the masculine dominated thoughts of organizations. As you know, Christ Michael as Jesus loved women as much as he did men, and children even more than both of them! And so, that this social sustainability will show that the Church in many ways is deficient in its capability to assume the principles of social sustainability that is so masculinely dominated with an inherent bias towards women that the Church is left wanting for a much larger dynamic in it’s social structure. I went far past your thoughts about poverty, but I wish you to know that poverty is a long-term outcome that will be diminished, and you must realize too, as some of you know from your personal experience that living simply—even in simple poverty—is sometimes a choice of well-minded individuals.
James: Thank you, Charles; I appreciate that.
Where should we begin?
MMc: In discussing social sustainability and the three core values with others, where should we begin? Is there a way to approach the subject that will lead to greater understanding and acceptance?
CHARLES: We have presented this material now from Monjoronson for over 7 years; surely you must have some ideas to introduce this to others in your own mind. You are not a mindless individual, but one who is highly creative and capable. Remember, you went through medical school and got your degree, and practiced. And so, as you had patients come to you, you were able to diagnose the situation and apply remediation to their condition for that individual. So, too, will you meet individuals in your life that can grasp the higher concepts of social sustainability almost immediately, but for those with lesser mental and intellectual capacity, the message must be simpler. Further, we wish to have this very genuine, and that you not have a rote method of introducing this to any or all individuals in the same manner. The spontaneity of this reflects the humility of your approach, which will surely be discernible by the individual who is listening to your words.
James: I was going to ask that question!
MMc: I added that question at the last minute. I hoped that it would…
James: That was exactly what I was thinking.
CHARLES: We did not mean to step on your toes, or to diminish your self-esteem, but to use your question as a point of instruction for those who wish to do the same as you, and to teach and share with others. We do not want to “preach” this message at all. That would be the wrong approach completely. We want to approach individuals so you can awaken within them the realization of what this means for them, and it means putting these principles, these values in context of their personal life. You see this in our approach to the Catholic Church and to universities; we are putting it in terms that they can accept and to assume—as to take on—this mission, as it is something that is inherent to their own existence. And so, it requires a certain degree of perception between yourself and the individual or your audience, as to how to present this material. You know that the universality of these three core values is the beginning of all further discussion. We hope that helps.
James: What I am getting here initially is a top-down approach from leaders, down to the masses, because the masses, basically in my thinking, can’t get past their daily routines and their daily life to even begin to try to understand social sustainability. So, it is a top-down approach from institutions to the masses. Is that correct?
Educating the masses
CHARLES: Yes, in one perspective only, and that is of the means of educating the masses, that this must come from cultural leaders, those cultural creatives who see the larger picture and put it in terms of sharing it with the millions. And so, it is top-down from that aspect. But the healing of your societies will not be initiated or carried on from the inertia of hierarchical organizations. They simply are incapable of proceeding. When we say that, we are thinking in terms of both governments and universities and the Church—the larger Christian Church—and that the will to change must be their acceptance, and how they are then to empower their memberships in developing the local procedures of how to initiate change and design of socially sustainable organizations, social processes and institutions at the local level. We see no hope of social sustainability becoming a social policy of the United States Government, for example. It has enough trouble trying to sustain an economy that is unsustainable. Sustainable growth is an oxymoron, as you know, and so, what the governments with large democratically based “free enterprise businesses” is like trying to balance an elephant on a pole; it is simply not possible. One must get the elephant underneath you to reach the heights.
So, you see, it must begin from organizations that accept the mission, the wisdom of the principles of social sustainability; they see that this is an obvious necessity, that it must be accepted and followed through. It is an obvious conclusion that they can grasp quickly. Those in the Church and in universities have the education and the intelligence to grasp these insights rather quickly, and that their programs, their institutional programs, would develop to inform their public, their audience in what they are doing and to empower the local individuals. This is culturally revolutionary; it is not politically revolutionary, or economically revolutionary; it is simply culturally revolutionary and will change the way that your cultures behave in the future, so that individuals are sustained in their families and their communities.
James: Thank you very much.
CHARLES: We are getting to the end of This One’s energy level. If you have any closing questions, we would appreciate them now.
Roxie: Charles, in your work with other nations on our planet, are any of them working on this sustainability issue, or are they working on other projects.
CHARLES: Many nations are working on sustainability as it applies to material sustainability, but very few are involved in rethinking their thoughts of sustainability to apply to the social context of their nation’s populations. There are individuals, however, who have grasped the necessity of social sustainability over and above material sustainability, as they know that material sustainability will eventually be the cause of great deprivation among people, and that only the social improvement of organizations and processes and their social institutions will support the recovery or the stability of their national populations.
What you are doing here within this group, with these concepts, is new; it is revolutionary in many ways of thinking. Though we do not use that word “revolutionary,” except in that we would put an opening parenthesis and a closing parenthesis around the (r) as in (r)evolutionary, so that individuals see the evolutionary aspect before they see the revolutionary aspect. The development of social sustainability is not a process of social disruption, social disintegration, class dominance or violence of any sort at all, but is deeply invested in the slow, methodical, patient, evolution of your societies so that they become sustainable. As we have said before, it is time that the rise and fall of civilizations cease, that the lessons of history, the lessons of today be garnered and applied to make your societies adaptable, so that they can adapt to changing circumstances and conditions. That can only come from the grassroots level, rather than from the top of hierarchies.
We thank you for your presence here today. There were many in attendance on our side, witnessing your engagement of these topics and in the thinking of your minds. We have a better ability to assess our progress and what is needed ahead by tapping into your consciousness as you participate in this forum. Thank you for your willingness to let us experiment with the format and the structure of your team, and it will continue to adapt even further, as we eventually wish to end with 7 members in the group. This will come in time, as will the necessity of using technology that allows this to happen. You will find that you will be able to do this easily while on your computers, among yourselves as This One will have his eyes closed as usual, and not be in touch or contact with your non-verbal cues. You will find that the ease with which we can move forward will be much more fluid and amenable to your social environment and to your social learning. We wish this forum to continue to be productive, to assist individuals in the communities around the world to anticipate our work and to anticipate how they can be of use in this work.
Christ Michael’s wish to engage the children to lead the world is certainly evident in his efforts to engage you at the grassroots level, the local level of your communities to change the way you think, to that which supports your own personal growth and improvement in the quality of your life. You will come to realize soon that truly Christ Michael sees you as equal of all those who occupy your planet. Many blessings to you today and in your courage to engage these topics now in your local level, as you go forward to make contact with those who can be of assistance to reach the millions that will need to be reached in the next few years. We wish you our best today and always. Good day.