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Arcadia Teaching Mission Group

Arcadia, California, U.S.A. Monday, Sept. 4, 2006, 7:30pm

Teachers: JarEl

TR: George Benavides

Topics:

  1. How we are fortunate.
  2. How each needs to reinterpret what they see and hear to arrive at their own individual version of the truth.
  3. God continually speaks to us and through us.
  4. Take the knowledge you have and help reinvent the world for all humanity.

Questions:

  1. How do we counsel people who want to know why dire things happen?
  2. Does forgiving people mean we are to overlook their wrongdoing?
  3. Does he who lives by the sword die by the sword?
  4. If there is no hell, how are wrongdoers punished?
  5. Is the choice whether or not to survive always deferred to the mansion Worlds?

Prayer: Larry: Dear Father thank you for this gathering. Thank you for all of the blessings that you have bestowed on each one of us. Help us to be good stewards of those blessings in our lives. We pray for peace in this world. We pray for the coming of Monjoronson. We pray for the coming of Light and Life. In Christ Michael's name, Amen.

JarEl: TR, George: Greetings, it is I, your Teacher JarEl. It is good to be back again among my friends and welcome to those who have not been here in a while. You are fortunate to have the opportunity to receive the knowledge that has been imparted to you. You are fortunate to have been able to arrive at this point in your earth careers. You are fortunate to have been illuminated by certain truths that exist within your world. What you have learned and what we say here is by no means meant to frustrate you or make you give up on the world. It is simply information which you must absorb and reinterpret for the later projection of what will be your version. You will find from time to time that almost everyone reinterprets the truth in their own way and so must you interpret the truths that you find in your own way. The reinterpretation of these truths allows you to be more sincere, allows you to make it your own and it also allows you to qualify it as something real in your life. Simply repeating a truth that you have heard carries no value. However, if you were to absorb that truth and reinterpret it in your own way of how you think best to speak of it, then that value is doubled. ---------(unintelligible - lost)

In this world whatever you see, whatever you hear and whatever you think is interpreted in such a way that you create your own truths in your own way. This qualifies as creation for any idea that you spawn is an addition to the ideas that exist in this world. So often people live in fear, so often are they afraid to speak of the truth, for they imagine that the truth is beyond them. They imagine that the truth is solidified and crystallized. They imagine that the truth is some far off distant idea that was established long before their own generation. But you, as ambassadors of light, know better and know that the truth is constantly being reinvented. God constantly speaks through you and to you. There is no cessation of messages or ideas; there is still a connection that is open to all of you who have ears to listen. So do not be afraid of your ideas, do not be afraid of your thoughts, do not be afraid of having the ability to speak the truth, for all of you are capable of doing this. All of you are capable of receiving these messages and qualifying them as messages from God.

Take the knowledge that you have and use it to break through the mediocrity that exists in this world. Use this information to infuse this planet with new energy and new ideals. Take the knowledge that you have and help reinvent this world for the sake of all of humanity. After all, great nations are born from ideas and, therefore, great spiritual nations shall be born of the idea of the Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man. Be sincere when you speak these truths and people shall listen.

Are there any questions here tonight?

Stella: Well, I have something that has puzzled me. We hear that Monjoronson said that there will be some great dire happening that will change everything in the world; governments, economics and all that. If we are those who happen to remain, how do we counsel the people who want to know why this all happened? If we tell them that it was in the Divine plan, then people will see how that confirms what the fundamentalists have been saying; that God causes these terrible things. So how do we reply? What do we say? How do we teach the people?

JarEl: TR, George: Do not be too eager to explain these happenings to people. All in due time my dear Stella. First and foremost you must attend to the matter of survival, you must attend to the matter of organization and community-building. You must attend to the matter of consoling people, those who have lost many loved ones.

As the years pass, you will receive more enlightened messages. Your spiritual connection shall be better, and these questions that you have regarding the tact you must use to communicate to these people the realities of the universe, will be provided to you. We do not advise to immediately proclaim why certain things happen. Allow for the individual to come to terms with such events, allow them to go through the grieving process, allow them to have a stable time before you introduce such a radical idea to them, in their eyes.

Perhaps to you it is not so radical, but to someone who is suffering from shock, this sort of thing is not advisable. You will know the time and date to begin communicating to those who will listen, but be patient and be mindful of your surroundings and know when to say the right thing.

Are there any other questions?

Stella: I have another question. In the Lord's prayer it says ".forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." Now, does forgiving those who trespass against us mean that we are to overlook some wrongdoing that they did?

JarEl: TR, George: From an individual point of view you may come to forgive someone who has wronged you, and that goes towards your own personal salvation. However, as a society, there are rules and laws and people must abide by them. For obvious reasons one cannot overlook wrongdoing. You may, at one point, come to forgive someone who has harmed you. But, as a society, you will not survive if you continually forgive everyone of their wrongdoing. Society must continue intact. Therefore, rules and regulations that are established by your civilization must be followed. So, from a personal standpoint, yes, you can overlook someone's wrongdoing, but from a society's point of view, you cannot.

Does that answer your question? (Yes, it does, thank you.)

Stella: Suppose a person does something very, very wrong and evil. Now, is there any truth in the saying "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword?" In other words, those who foment war in this world, will they, in turn, be subject to what they meted out to others? Or will that wait until they are on the other side and if they are on the other side, what do they do? Because lots of people believe in hell, they believe hell will be the place where people are punished, but, if there's no hell, what will be their punishment?

JarEl: TR, George: To answer the first part of your question, a person can definitely receive some sort of consequence from their own actions in this lifetime. So, yes, if you do live by the sword, you can definitely die by it as well. But if, for some reason, that person escapes any and all consequence related to their actions in this lifetime, at one point they must answer for everything they have done. Just as you must answer to everything you have done in this world as well.

Sometimes having to revisit much of what they had done, causes within them such pain and sorrow, that it feels like hell to them. So, although there is no hell, the experience that they must go through, qualifies it as such for they must look at themselves and must see what they have done to others and to themselves. You will often find that as people have to look at themselves many are afraid to see who they are for they are afraid of what they might find. So they avoid any sort of retrospection and they fall into a pattern of filling in preconceived attitudes. There are no established rules in this world that you must follow, you are all unique individuals. If you ever have the opportunity to truly see who you are, by all means, take it and experience that tremendous knowledge of self knowing. But if you continuously hide yourself, if you continuously avoid the internal experience, then you are doomed to live a hellish experience in the next realm. For it truly will be painful for you to experience all of the harm that you have inflicted on others. This pain is mostly emotional pain of which I speak. There is no physical pain associated to this.

John: In regard to Stella's question, I would like to expand on it a little bit. It is amazing that she asked this question because I was in discussion with my wife today, while talking about the Bible and telling her that there is no hell. She asked me, "What happens to these people then, what kind of punishment do they get for their evil?" If this person who does the evil doesn't experience any kind of consequences in this lifetime, and they don't survive, is it possible - I guess I mean the greatest punishment anyone could ask for is to not survive anyway, in my opinion. Perhaps, is it true that, the good that could come out of this evil, that people are subjected to, and what they can get out of it, having to pass through the experience of dealing with this evil, in a way compensates somehow for this person's not getting any kind of a punishment?

JarEl: TR, George: That is true. There is much good that can eventually be derived from evil. For everything can turn to good eventually. Even a supposed evil person that dies and goes on to the mansion world can return to good. We prefer not to lose souls in this universe and the Father's plan is perfect and immense. Even though many of us may not understand much of what He does, we certainly accept it and do not question it. If you question why such a person should survive, that person is limited in your scope and view for you have very little knowledge of how the universe works. You have very little experience of how long you will live and you know very little of how such a person can change over time. Much of what is done in this world is done through sin and error and many of you simply do not know any better. But there will be a time when all of this is explained to you fully and then you can make the adequate choice of continuing your spiritual career. Even such a person of ill repute can change and be good. We have seen it happen many times. The pain and suffering that many of you experience because of these evil people is of little consequence in the grand scheme of things. Soon this world will seem like a dream to you and what was done on this world will no longer matter for all who die continue.

Larry: JarEl you are saying that since we are all freewill individuals and we make the choice whether to continue or not, you are saying that everyone resurrects on the mansion worlds and there is nobody that makes the choice here on this earth and says "I don't want to continue?" Aren't there people on this earth who are so evil that they've gone away so far from God, that they just won't survive? Because in the Bible it does say that the wages of sin is death. That seems to me that there are people who make a choice here, or does that choice have to be made in the mansion worlds and beyond?

JarEl: TR, George: The universe is just and the universe affords you every opportunity to repent. How can you repent when you do not have all the knowledge available to you; when you simply do not know. Such a person who has become iniquitous has distanced themselves from God and perhaps even severed their connection through their Thought Adjuster. But that person is given one more chance to repent. The grand universe is illustrated before their eyes so that they might have full knowledge of what they might give up. If then that person does decide to end their life, then that choice is final. But that choice is not made here on this planet. Make sure that you understand this. (Thank you) You are welcome.

Do not be so concerned with the salvation of others for your life is enough to handle. I will leave you with that and goodnight.

All: Goodnight JarEl

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